Date: 2005-04-02 06:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eutrapelia.livejournal.com
В любом случае некрасивый флэш-моб.

Date: 2005-04-02 06:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cema.livejournal.com
Бессмысленный и беспощадный!

Date: 2005-04-02 06:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bbb.livejournal.com
Осмысленный и беспощадный.

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Date: 2005-04-02 06:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eutrapelia.livejournal.com
Вот именно, что бессмысленный. И отупляющий.

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Date: 2005-04-02 06:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bbb.livejournal.com
Да уж всяко покрасивше судебного преследования Мошкова будет...

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Date: 2005-04-03 09:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kouzdra.livejournal.com
Я там ничего некрасивого не вижу. Вполне обычная обструкция по правильному поводу. К тому же - более корректная по форме, чем я бы оиждал в такой ситуации.

Тем более, что вреда как такового, она Геворкяну не причиняет (в отличие от известной методы коллективных репрессий против почтовых ящиков). Просто информирует его о том, какое количество людей сочло нужным выразить ему свое фе.

Что у него "совесть проснется" я не верю, но вот впредь он (и другие) возможно будут поосторожнее.

Date: 2005-04-02 07:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] leonid-b.livejournal.com
Как там у раннего Евтушенко: "И если сотня, воя оголтело, кого-то бьет, пусть даже и за дело - сто первым я не буду никогда".

Date: 2005-04-04 05:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] toshick.livejournal.com
Конечно, правильно было бы сходить и поплевать на него и его книжки лично. Ничего, и это тоже будет.

Date: 2005-04-04 02:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] toshick.livejournal.com
Интересный вопрос - где начинается толпа и где кончается гражданское общество.

Date: 2005-04-02 08:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] leonid-b.livejournal.com
Правильный человек Максим. Просто правильный.

Date: 2005-04-02 08:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] balalajkin.livejournal.com
Наказывать надо без злости.

Date: 2005-04-02 08:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] leonid-b.livejournal.com
И только в том случае, если у тебя есть полномочия кого-то наказывать. В данном же случае мы имеем дело с самозванцами.

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Date: 2005-04-03 06:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kukutz.livejournal.com
Кто кого наказывает? Где?

Date: 2005-04-02 12:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chertenok-13.livejournal.com
Если мы все живем в цивилизованном мире, то Ваши ссылки просто мрак - уровень первобытнообщинного строя!
Можно только сожалеть о тех, кто там сейчас пишет или писал "мудрые" пословицы и поговорки.
ПОЗОР!
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Я ни в коей мере не оправдываю и не поддерживаю km.ru и Геворкяна, переживаю за URL Мошкова и не представляю себе, если вдруг исчезнет из интернета библиотека Мошкова, но я против появления вот таких вот записей в любых журналах.
Бороться надо цивилизованно..

Date: 2005-04-02 02:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ex-z-m-z.livejournal.com
Где добрые судьи поведутся, там и ябедники переведутся.

Date: 2005-04-02 02:30 pm (UTC)
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Куда уж цивилизованней: он иски в суд, ссылаясь на неправовые законы, а ему всего-навсего комменты в журнал. Он создает прецедент для всей страны, а его только вежливо просят выложить хотя бы кусоче его книжки.

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Date: 2005-04-02 05:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] scholar-vit.livejournal.com
Я бы сказал, что этот флеш-моб -- способ очень дешево почувствовать себя благородным. Борющимся за правое дело.

Чересчур дешево на мой вкус.

Date: 2005-04-02 05:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bbb.livejournal.com
Так ведь это хорошо - когда правильные вещи дешевеют. Значит, больше людей могут получать и совершать эти правильные вещи.

Ведь, например, когда любой человек может издавать газету или вести ЖЖ - это лучше, чем когда ему для этого надо быть или продать совесть, чтобы стать верным цепным псом власти, или каждую минут быть готовым пойти в мордовские лагеря. Было недешево, но было ли это лучше.

О дешевизне

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Date: 2005-04-02 05:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] trurle.livejournal.com
Надо же, а я то думал что когда т. Блехер высказывается в том смысле что нет истины и мудрости иной чем исходящей от президентской администрации, это такой вывих сознания. оказывается, это он на работе, а в душе все понимает, наверное.

Date: 2005-04-02 11:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] balalajkin.livejournal.com
У них у всех там сознание вывихивается, как только они забираются на государственную кочку повыше колена.

Date: 2005-04-03 02:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hina-chleck.livejournal.com
Цитата для размышления - не для аргумента.
http://www.livejournal.com/users/ppetya/380918.html?view=2917622#t2917622

Date: 2005-04-03 05:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bbb.livejournal.com
И как надо над ней размышлять? Акция в ЖЖ Геворкяна абсолютно ничем не схожа с линчеванием. Разве что ппетя (и вы с ним) хотите сказать, что по-настоящему с Геворкяном надо разбираться ночью и в масках? Тут я вам не товарищ, увольте.

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Боря, а ты не хочешь на Лебедевских чтениях сделать доклад "Толпа и свобода"? Я когда-то был на одной из конференций ISIL, там некто Смит прочел доклад "Право народа на восстание" -- это все единодушно сочли лучшим из трех десятков докладов. Очень в тему, IMHO.

Date: 2005-04-04 01:22 pm (UTC)
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Нет, я, скорее, думаю о проблеме копирайта и т.д.

А тема "толпа и свобода" мне не очевидна - что в ней обсуждать?

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